It all started when I was bored in Dalaran, my finger hovered over the ESC key, preparing to log off. Something that has become remarkably easy since the RealID stupidity.
Just as I pressed the ESC key and the system menu popped up, I noticed someone
LFM Tempest Keep.
I thought to myself
Why not?
Invites out, summons accepted, in we went.
Buff time
We engage in the usual start of raid ritual of buffing. No one is bothering with fish feasts or flasks – it’s a level 70 raid and it’s filled with 80’s.
A quick glance at my raid UI shows there’s one other Mage in the raid, so I automatically select them and plant a big fat Focus Magic on them.
My Focus Magic is accompanied with my usual pithy macro:
Focus Magic on you, bring on the crits!
Then I stumble.
Rather than the usual automated “thanks for FM” message, I get
Thanks, you want me to respec Arcane?
You play your game, I’ll play mine.
I play Fire, I always have.
I love Fire. It could be as weak as a Warlock and I’d still play Fire.
Krizzly plays Frost, he always has.
He loves Frost. It could be as weak as a Hunter and he’d still play Frost.
Larisa plays Arcane. She loves Fire, but right now loves Arcane more. I think she’d respec Fire with the slightest nudge.
TotalBiscuit plays Arcane because it’s the only spec to play. Playing anything else, particularly Frost proves you’re an idiot. He plays Arcane because as the best Mage spec, you would be gimping your raid by a good 50 dps if you played anything else.
He isn’t sentimental, he doesn’t play a spec because he loves it. He only plays it because it is the best!
Which of course makes me wonder why he isn’t playing the current best raiding spec… Fire.
Let’s face it, if Jong finds Arcane Mages simple and boring… they are simple and boring. He wont be their poster boy.
Do whatever is fun for you!
Apart from the fact that I was a nobody amongst nobodies in a PuG retro raid, thus really had no right to tell anyone what to do, I replied the only way I know.
You do what makes you feel good
🙂 Frost
Gota love a Frostie that loves Frost 😉
I felt a little sorry for the player, living under fear that they should respec from love to practicality.
I chuckled to myself on the 1st boss fight, while the string of
IMMUNE
IMMUNE
IMMUNE
Popped up on the screen.
Ahhh Fire, on a Fire boss.
I was soon laughing hysterically, wondering if I should have done a quick respec to my secondary spec.
Of course exchanging PvE Fire for PvP Fire really wasn’t going to fix things.
It was irrelevant anyway, I just popped open my spellbook and cast Frost spells directly from the book (you don’t think I’d waste space with Frost spells on my toolbar do you? Next you will be wondering if I even bothered spending the gold buying Arcane spells from the trainer).
Seriously folks, when it comes to WoW, a game, play it the way you want to play it.
Fire, Frost, Arcane, Wand Spec – whatever floats your boat, do it.
You may be the only person in the game to spec that way, but just remember.
Contrary to popular opinion, 10,999,999 people can be wrong!
If it’s right for you, then it is right.
Arena Fire
I’m lucky I play with a few folk that don’t care and subscribe to my play whatever you want attitude.
Every now and then they ask if I have a particular Frost talent that is an Arena winner. I gently remind them I am Fire and, everything cool, we move on.
I’ve been seeing more and more people in BGs running with Fire. It’s still a bit of a surprise.
Natural for me, unnatural that I am fighting against Fire.
The other night we came up against a dual Fire Mage team. I didn’t realize at 1st, but the Dragons Breaths and Blastwaves gave the game away.
I almost felt sorry for burying them both, almost and not for long.
I am happy they are playing fire because let’s face it, you wouldn’t be playing fire in the Arena unless you loved it.
Gnomer and Out!
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Two thumbs up!
I wish Gnomes had enough fingers for thumbs 😦
hear hear! I wish people would learn to look past ‘what EJ tells me to do’ and just played how they enjoyed. Whether that’s how EJ says or not.
he he.. of course when I hear “EJ” I automatically think of the old rustbucket EJ holden an ex-girlfriend drove.
Sure you could achieve amazing results from the car, but it freaked most people out when the car turned sideways when you hit the brakes (great for avoiding parked cars if you knew when to accelerate)
” I think she’d respec Fire with the slightest nudge.”
Now what’s that nonsense? You’re looking for a mage duel? 😉
But yeah. I suppose you’re right. I’m a little bit like TB in this aspect. I’ll go with whatever EJ says, the cockie cutter spec of the day, although without despising or racking down on anyone who sticks to his beloved frost spec or whatever.
I must admit that the development of fire, with the LB dotting, isn’t something that I love. I just suck at it horribly. The multi-target-dotting… I fail to get good results, there’s something about the execution that I don’t get. So I still hope that arcane will be a viable raid spec in Cataclysm. And if not. Well, then I’m back at fire again. Although with a worried wrinkle in my forehead.
Mage dual.. pah!
Bring on your mana bickies!
I had an Arcane mage whisper me “DPS” in ICC the other day. I think he thought I was doing nothing.
I was certainly standing in the one spot, apparently doing the Mexican wave.. of course each wave coincided with the application of another living bomb.
1 flamestrike, 1/2 a blizzard later I was top of the charts as all my pretty little friends exploded at once.
I would have loved to see that in action.. my little mage on KT is a frostie, I tried fire a long time ago and liked it, but i like having the pet even more.
Actually inclined to agree here I was advised to go arcane but you know what Fire is so much more fun.
I mean the satisfaction of watching someone burn is a brilliant way to liven up a run (or is that just my sadist approach :D.
No it’s isn’t your sadistic approach… it’s Fire Mage business!
Each living bomb brings a tear to my eye, each hotstreak (accompanied by the sound file from powerauras that sounds like someone just got jabbed in the nether regions with a god) makes me harden in all the non-g-rated ways you could imagine.
That’s one thing society can thank WoW for… otherwise I would be on the streets trying to replicate the joys of Fire on innocent bystanders
Hey Gnomer,
Are you sticking around now that the RealID fiasco has setteld down?
A good question… I am finding it very easy to log off and stay logged off at the moment.
RL will intervene over the next couple of weeks with pirate birthday parties and taking the little pirate himself on a plane to the banana republic… err Queensland.
I shall see how I am feeling after that.
I’m not change-phobic, but some of the changes, real and imagined, coming WoW’s way are leaving me a little.. err… short. (including, believe it or not, the changes to Battlegrounds)
Meanwhile many other things are tugging at my attention.
Tomorrow is another day, soon WoW will be another expansion. What will be optional in the next expansion? What will be gripping? Where will I put my talent points or cash… yet to see
Definitely! I am raiding, playing fire, and loving it! Not only do I get big yellow numbers I know and love, but I get to giggle like a pyromaniac at the same time 🙂
Kinda reminds me of this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJVaIrn0bw
At first I wondered about that video (apart from quietly chuckling at it’s contents), then I realized every time he cackled, it raised the same feeling in me as Living Bomb and Hot Streak
“the current best raiding spec… Fire.”
Is this true or are you misleading me? I’m skeptical after the voa pug mocked me for gemming agility.
I’ll give fire a whirl next week.
I would never mislead… (checks blog content).. ohh yeah I am THE misleading mage… but it was actually Larisa that suggested Agility was an optimal stat for Mages.
Yeah, Fire rocks. 4piece T9 and you will be having lots of fun.. throw in a couple of T10 pieces, for hasted fireballs, flamestrikes (Tip, dot the trash, but keep one targeted.. when hot streak procs, shoot it off, purely to get the hasted AoE) etc… music of the experimental Industrial genre.
I think you need a reasonable dose of chaos in your soul.. and you need to accept that sometimes the Hotstreaks don’t fall in your favour. When they do though, you will wonder who that Mage at the top of the charts is. (while you kick over the corpses looking for someone to throw that last Hot Streak Pyro at.)
Remember… Fire demands more +Hit than Arcane, depending on your gear level you might be better sucking it up with Arcane until you have some nice gear.
However, when it comes to PvP (I read Arathi Basin, not Arcane Blasts when I saw your post title), Fire is just silly fun.
Fire is the top DPS spec for progression mages; however, this assumes a full complement of ICC25/heroic gear (and a 25 man raid chock full of all the buffs that make up a balanced breakfast). The average mage is going to get more bang for her buck by going arcane: alts just gearing up, ten man mages (especially those without a hit debuff), or people messing around doing 70 level raids. 😉
Of course the average Mage doesn’t need to produce progression results. You are right of course, but I am still finding myself in the top 3 on the charts, maybe 5th on a bad day, and it should be pointed out that this is a complete surprise.
I nearly missed the gunship battle one run because I was staring at the meter after taking down that big frosty dragon. 10k dps isn’t bad for single target, even if it is just big trash.
I figure I am more than holding up my end and while I might be able to squeeze out more, it’s possible those with 1/2 my dps could do the same, meanwhile I am playing the way I love to play
Yeah, it’s a matter of personal preference. I don’t play Arcane for the DPS, I play it because I enjoy being an ‘Arcane Mage’.
Fire is fun, (and is my BG spec), but not particularly enjoyable in raids (personally).
And Frost, well, /I/ hate (playing) it, but that doesn’t mean it’s particularly bad – just not my personal style.
Perfect example of playing how you want to play.. I tried Arcane for 2 weeks back in Naxx… after 2 weeks, comparing the numbers, I realised I did as much, if not more with frostfire.
I respec’d then realised where the difference lay… I felt fire, I played Arcane.
Play the way you feel
When GC replied to the ‘mobs immune to schools’ comment with “we don’t really make those anymore” I immediately posted, “Frost mages would like to have a word with you about Scalder in Borean Tundra and Frost Lord Ahune.” Thank goodness Ahune dropped the cloak I wanted on my very first run cause I really don’t know if I could’ve kept going in there doing nothing but casting Flamestrikes and Arcane Explosion.
Frost PvE and Frost PvP for me! Husband can be the Hot Streak nut of the family altho he does keep whatever the flavor of the month is as his offspec just in case.
Or silly little fights like Onyxia… pfft who cares about big dragons?
The dragons in Outland nearly broke me when doing Loremaster. I had to get mates to come and kill them for me. I’ll be buggered if I’m going to respec for a quest.
Nice post. I am a compulsive min/maxer: I don’t identify as any flavor of mage, I’m a “whatever-is-top-spec-or-my-raid-needs” mage. Ais is a diehard fire mage but will and did spec arcane when it was flavor of the month. Whenever I give out mage advice, though, I don’t tell people to respec unless doing more damage is more fun for them than playing a particular flavor. (It’s why my guide has a whole section on how to play frost, even though it’s still pretty weak.) I think it’s more important to play whatever you want to play and well as long as you’re having fun and you have a supportive raid environment.
On the other hand, if that frost mage in your party put up Ice Armor, my eyelid would start twitching. 😉
Ultimately you are playing what you want to play.
Ultimately I don’t care where people get their “inspiration”, whether it’s theorycrafted or nutso-fanaticism.
What I do dislike is the
“noobcakes is spec’d non-flavor-of-the-month” rubbish from people that did nothing more than import a talent spec from the web into Talented and have no idea, or desire to find out, how it works, or understand the passion that can go into following a tree.
edit: now, I know you two don’t just grab spec’s of the web without understanding… wish I had more time or I would be chasing your for your beta fire experiences – yes, I would just download them without understanding them 😉
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Thanks, wonderful anecdote! Just recently there was a discussion in /general about hotkeys vs. clicking, where in the end we agreed that either way is fine, as long as you kill stuff and have fun.
This goes doubly for specs – if you like frost (or arcane, in my case), play frost! If I can do my job and have fun, I couldn’t care less if some other cookie-cutter EJ spec is ‘better’.
I’m killing stuff, nobody’s dieing and it’s fun. The end. 🙂
While it matters, it depends on the environment. A keyboard turning clicker is bait in PvP… But I have found when I go heals that I become such a creature of myth and legend.
Healing frames do that to me. The reverse is true on Gnome, I don’t know how to turn him without the mouse, and can’t find the spells with my cursor
my mage is frostfire. I have arcane offspec, but frostfire is my favorite. i have the absolute most fun with it. I even tried fire/arcane but for some reason it just doesn’t have the same feel as frostfire to me. of course my dps is also relatively low, especially compared to when I switch to arcane, but I don’t care. 3k in heroics is more then enough and heroics is where I play her most.
that said – she’s not my raider. her contribution will not make or break a kill. so I can afford to play however I want without gimping other people.
I’m not a huge min maxer but when it comes to my raiding character, I at least make an effort. I might keep a few socket bonuses here and there, and I might play a second best spec, becasue I like it more, but in general, I’ll try to maximize my performance on that character as much as I’m able and that means cookie cutting it. I still have fun with it, but the fun comes form the knowledge of being an equal contributor to your raids success, rather then glorified spectator being carried to victory.
I’m a clicker. unfortunately for me, that’s all I can be unless characters are one button wonders, becasue I could never touch type (my fingers constantly lose their spots) I do all right. often i do better then those who push keyboard buttons. but put me next to a keybind using player who otherwise has similar knowledge, spec, situational awareness etc and he or she will do better. its very similar to cookie cutter best specs. they will not shine in the hands of not so good players but they will have highest potential in a hands of a good one.
I guess what I’m saying is that they are shades of fun and there nothing wrong with tooting your own horn, as long as it doesn’t result in other people not having fin becasue they have to compensate for you tooting your horn.
I held onto Frostfire for too long. I wasn’t happy with my low ranking on the charts, I knew I could do more and really I was reluctant to go frostfire due to the taint of frost.
The 1st couple of days were hard.. I hadn’t even thought of the snare component of frostfire… but let’s face it, I had been a fireballing made for 74 levels of my existence, so I soon “warmed” to 2 shotting mobs again (usually followed up with a one-shot hot-streak of a close mob).
But yes, if your shade of fun is red with a blue tinge, then that is the right spec for you.
Melée Fire spec is how I roll on my Mage. Living Bombs, Dragon’s Breath, Flamestrike, Blast Wave, Flamestrike, Cone of Cold, Fun.
I am so glad that I am not the only melee mage about. Even in Arenas I find myself at the front of the pack, leaving my Retri Pally mate in my dust.
Gnomer, did you hear that the whole “friends of friends” Real ID thing is going to be optional in cataclysm, too? i read it somewhere… probably wow.com in a blue post or something. anyway, i figured you’d be pleased.
i’m pretty interested to see what your take is on the new 31 point fire trees that are coming. i’m excited about some parts of it for sure (combustion looks VERY exciting, believe it or not…)
but i’m wondering where the flame orb went in the fire tree…
: (
Panic not… I believe it is a spell, rather than a talent.. although, there appears to be a FrostFire talent go with.. of course that deep in the Frost tree, you are a Frost Mage with a heart of fire, rather than the other way around.
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Here..Here…
Only spec I personally don’t like is Fire, cause it’s more of I suck at it issue.
For the record… I’ve never said you suck… kk?
This post is wonderful. It makes me want to cheer. Like out loud. For real.
I’m so glad.. I dare say my next post will make you cry.. there wont be much of me in it, mainly links to non-wow videos I have found.
I was bawling on the train on the way home tonight
It’s exactly this that has me sad about the talent tree revamps. I have a tendency to tinker and try out weird specs. Locking me into a tree says “play like we tell you, Noob!”… and I don’t like it.
My baby mage is levelling in fire spec. What’s not to love? I get to set stuff on fire!! Kobolds! Troggs! Gnolls! Woop!
When people ask me why I’m chasing odd achievements or things they consider a grind, I reply ‘because it’s fun’. Your definition of fun and mine maybe different, but you can’t argue that’s the point of the game.
If you aren’t having fun, why are you playing?
I like the sentiment of the post, but maybe the player in question doesn’t particularly mind what they’re using… maybe they don’t care if they respec because it’s the overall game / teamplay that they’re interested in. It just came off a little like you were saying that they lived in fear of their build being judged / wrong, but you can’t tell that just from the fact that they’re open to change.
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